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Some cheating.

Update: One of the players who cheated me is now finally caught. He was in Top 10 of classical and won allot of games in the last weeks and caused allot of damage. (http://de.lichess.org/@/schtroumpfette)

So much for Theory that cheating hunters are paranoid...

Best wishes
Nada
The fun part for all of engine hunters is to go to the banned player's account, click "Losses" and pick up other engines like mushrooms :]
lol problem is a lot of people when they lose they automatic think your cheating with engine lol... look for example Grandmaster Anish Giri knows the first 20 moves of all opening so.... make sure your 100% accurate and let the computer team do the job and don't worry and just have fun.
"So much for Theory that cheating hunters are paranoid..."

Yeah because that's what we all said. *eyeroll*

Not sure if paranoid now about everyone thinking they are paranoid, or if troll...
One must question them selves if the opponent is causing a problem.
Example: You're playing in a tournament and you just lost your game against any average player that has been on the sdite for a long time. During the game, your ping was 250.
You play another opponent and this player is fairly new to the site. After a few moves, your ping jumps to 800 and your browser is having a had time sending in the moves.
It stays that way until your time is real low and all of a sudden your ping returns to normal.

Name a few probable causes for the increase in ping during that game?
Toscani
Name a few probable causes for the increase in ping during that game?

i don't think that would matter if someone tab switched to engine during a game that wouldn't cause lost of data or anything with the network , cause isn't ping a
network latency between a player's computer (client), and either the game server or another client.
Just saying
Most Cheaters are good, aren`t they?

(A)
Take box and put 2 (weak) players into it. Now let them play. It is like coinflipping.
coinflip first player blunders.
coinflip second player sees the blunder.
Because both players will win 50% of their games, they will not improve.

(B)
Now put an engineplayer to this guys.Both players will not win a game against the engine player.

-But they will see every! blunder they make.Because the engine will punish it.

-luckfactor is reduced, because there will be no coinflips for the engine player.

I think both players will improve faster with(B) than with (A).So EngineCheaters are good.
Isn´t this the reason why we analyse in most cases our games via an engine?
It is like getting live analysed.

Cheaters doesn´t ruin onlinechess, calling other cheaters ruins onlinechess.
@humans:

I know this theory and I dont think that it is very pointful.

First you cant conclude that cheater are "good" because you are forced to learn something from your mistakes in a game you were tricked. This is obviously not the idea of a cheater that you become a better player.

Its also very questionable if you learn that much out of such a game. If you play against another human player you are confronted with typical humanlike ideas and here is enough room to improve your chess afterwards. Your example that just 2 beginners play random moves against each other is not very pointful as well.

Human players improve if they play against other human players. You need to be at least able to introduce some strategical ideas and playing against (for example) stockfish is therefore not a good way due to the fact that you are just blown away by the engine without learning anything except the fact that humans have no chance against computers.

By the way: I dont want to play against engines, I want to play against other humans and thats exactly why we are here.

Best wishes
Nada

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